If all you did was just look for things to appreciate, you would live a joyous, spectacular life.
WHEN YOU ARE FRUSTRATED WITH LIFE, HERE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS:
1. Sit In Your Parked Car With Sunglasses on and point a Hair Dryer At Passing Cars. See If They Slow Down.
2. Every Time Someone Asks You To Do Something, ask If They Want Fries with that.
3. In the Memo Field Of All Your Checks, Write ' For Marijuana.'
4. Page Yourself Over The Intercom. Don't Disguise Your Voice!
5. When The Money Comes Out The ATM, Scream 'I Won! I Won!'
6. When Leaving the Zoo, Start Running towards the Parking lot, Yelling 'Run For Your Lives! They're Loose!'
7. Tell Your Children Over Dinner, 'Due To The Economy, We Are Going To Have To Let One Of You Go.'
8. PICK UP A BOX OF CONDOMS AT THE PHARMACY, GO TO THE COUNTER AND ASK WHERE THE FITTING ROOM IS.
THIS VIDEO of the cab driver and the grumpy lady, changed my life (that and getting sober in recovery 18 years ago! It's a daily reprieve. :)
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This is how the law of life works: when you give, you receive. And the more you give, the more you receive.
It is wonderful the way love created a full circle of gifts. The one thing in the world the cab driver wanted, he received — as a result of his kindness and generosity.
Here's what's interesting. The woman was obnoxious and bitchy to the cab driver. She presented herself as a bitter, unhappy woman who complained a lot.
What is amazing about this is that the cab driver did not REACT. He did not return hate for hate. He did not spew anger or bark back at the woman.
He quietly persisted in trying to first understand her behavior. He tried to understand ("Seek first to understand, rather than to be understood," says the St. Francis prayer) -- and wondered why she was so bitchy and mean-spirited. "A soft answer turns away wrath."
Question: If the cab driver had angrily cursed at her or been equally rude to the woman — if he had retaliated in an "eye for an eye" way — would he have been the perfect donor match for this woman?
I don't think so, but we would never know anyway, because an angry person would never have gone to the clinic to get the blood work done to see if his kidney was the match for a total stranger. And an angry stranger at that!
Interesting question: did his loving attitude CREATE the match? Did his act of being loving and generous and compassionate and going against the grain of retaliating and "fighting fire with fire" actually foment a healthy breeding ground for miracles and create the synchronicty of the highest order -- love, healing, life? After all, love and love making actually unite people in creating babies -- LIFE!
Obviously he would not have been open-hearted enough to even offer his kidney — but let's take it a step further. If he were a miserly, hateful, angry person — would he have had the right chemistry, the correct DNA, or even have a healthy kidney to give her? Would he have been the perfect match if his nature had been reactive, volatile, resentful, negative, withholding, conservative (fear based) or "quick to anger?"
What do you think? Did the cab driver's generous, loving compassion — his peaceful, non-reactive attitude — actually CREATE the right match for her kidney? Or was it all predestined?
Quantum physics says that the observer affects the object (wave) making it collapse into a particle at a certain moment in time.
Quantum Physics says that everything exists in waves of infinite possibility, until we turn around and lock it in or "particularize" it with our "judgment, observation or opinion." (This is why it's important not to make negative assumptions about people or to judge them, for you get whatever you choose to see -- and you can therefore experience negative events that were never objectively there before you "locked them in" with your weighted observation or judgment.
I believe his open-hearted attitude toward the rude woman — and his gentle persistence in trying to understand her pain — was the compassion that created the donor match. Anyone can be loving to someone who is loving to them first, but when we are loving to those who hate us and persecute us, we disarm them. We conquer our enemies. (By the way, that is the mark of a true Christian; the one who turns the other cheek and loves his enemies and his neighbor as himself.
Love is creative. It creates life. The cab driver's loving compassion actually made his kidney the right donor match.
Love in the face of hatred is the law of attraction. Like attracts like; hence, the kidney match. I know this may sound difficult to wrap your mind around, but with an understanding of Quantum Physics, it is simple to understand.
If the cab driver had returned hate for hate -- if he had been her equal in jerkiness -- which is so easy and common, in fact most of us behave very badly on a daily basis with others. Most of us take the easy, lazy way out and we don't extend ourselves beyond our own nose -- we have no interest in experiencing life from another's point of view, especially a bitchy old woman. Maybe a sad person will elicit some sympathy but how often do we actually stop to consider WHY someone is so ornery or mean? Not very often, which makes me think this cabbie was a very special human being to be able to "turn the other cheek and quest for anwers inside this woman's crotchety old soul.
It's so ordinary and easy and common for us in everyday life to instantly react with hurt pride or to lash out when insulted or attacked. It seems to be the way of the world - tit for tat, you insult me, I insult you back. In our American TV shows and comedies we are so snarky and sarcastic and mean to each other. We get annoyed and resentful so easily.
But if this cab driver had been as much a jerk as his passenger was to him, there would not have been a healing. There would have been no story, no gift, no miracle.
There would have just been two hollow, hateful people passing like ships in the night. Maybe the cabbie would have had to learn his lesson in another way.
But two jerks usually cancel each other out. So it's our job, each of us, to go out into the world and do what we can to make someone happy. Here's how simple it is: Love creates life. When we express love, no matter how someone else is behaving, everyone involved in an argument is healed.
I don't mean to repeat myself but this is an important point, and a major discovery. Love heals. it is a creative force. Hate is a destructive force; it does not create life — it kills life. Just as darkness is the absence of light, and coldness is the absence of warmth, hatred is the absence of love. Hatred, darkness and cold have no power of their own. They are not self-starters.
This man took a bad situation and shined love on it. By his generosity, he enabled his kidney to be the right one as a donor match.
How is this possible?
In Quantum physics, scientists have proven that our loving attention to an object actually changes the object in the physical universe.
We have been conditioned to believe that the external world is more real than the internal world. Quantum Physics says just the opposite: what’s happening on the inside determines what’s happening on the outside. Our world is shaped by our thoughts. So your loving attention to something, literally alters the physical universe. This is scientific, but it is not easily understood.
Energy consists of sub-atomic particles that in turn make up atoms and finally matter. This energy exists as waves spread out over space and time. They have discovered that down to the tiniest atom, there is only empty space. There is no solid matter. Everything is energy. Everything exists in waves of infinite possibility. Only when we focus our attention on an object does that object become a particle. We "particularize" an object by our attention to it.
So thoughts really are things. And 85% of all disease is caused by stress -- which means worry, fear or misplaced thoughts that become ingrained habits of negativity. There is now scientific proof that loving thoughts actually create a thicker brain cortex. Monks who meditate on love regularly have no disease.
Dr. Christine Northrup says "Hope is a biochemical state in the body that promotes healing."
Laughter heals. And we know that love heals everything. Love is the actual definition of God. (If only the hateful Christian and Muslim fundamentalists knew that; they seem to omit Christ's teachings form their form of Christianity. Very bizarre.
Love is an interactive force. The Creator needs playmates to show off for. God needs our cooperation and belief in order to manifest miracles in our lives.
To experience magic, miracles and wonder, we need to adopt a childlike wonder at all the beauty around us. We need to appreciate it, so it can show off for us. We need to "act as if" we believe in a power greater than ourselves -- participate, conspire, and cooperate with the LOVE (which is God and Goodness (they all mean the same thing.)
By our loving, selfless action, we create harmony and goodwill. By being loving and giving, this man became the perfect match.
In this case, the Universe kept putting the cabbie and the woman together because the woman needed to be "driven" into submission by the cab driver's gentleness. This is the method used by the Great Peacemaker when he healed so-called "sinners." He leaned on Divine Love with revolutionary softness. Christ didn't condemn the adulterer or the thief; his unconditional love made them want to walk in the light, and transformed their hearts. Whether you believe the healing miracles or not, loving your enemies actually works. "A soft answer turns away wrath."
In any case, fate/the universe/God or whatever you call your higher power — kept putting the cab driver and the bitch together because they each had a missing piece that created the whole; the full circle.
It is wonderful the way love created a full circle of gifts. The one thing in the world the cab driver wanted, he received — as a result of his generosity. The antidote to poverty and depression is generosity. This cab driver acted exactly as the Great Peacemaker would; he gave freely without thought of self. And he received everything.
And what was the catalyst? Returning love for hate. The cab driver persisted in being loving to his enemy.
~ Love, Lydia
THIS VIDEO of the cab driver and the grumpy lady, changed my life (that and getting sober in recovery 18 years ago! It's a daily reprieve. :)
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This is how the law of life works: when you give, you receive. And the more you give, the more you receive.
It is wonderful the way love created a full circle of gifts. The one thing in the world the cab driver wanted, he received — as a result of his kindness and generosity.
Here's what's interesting. The woman was obnoxious and bitchy to the cab driver. She presented herself as a bitter, unhappy woman who complained a lot.
What is amazing about this is that the cab driver did not REACT. He did not return hate for hate. He did not spew anger or bark back at the woman.
He quietly persisted in trying to first understand her behavior. He tried to understand ("Seek first to understand, rather than to be understood," says the St. Francis prayer) -- and wondered why she was so bitchy and mean-spirited. "A soft answer turns away wrath."
Question: If the cab driver had angrily cursed at her or been equally rude to the woman — if he had retaliated in an "eye for an eye" way — would he have been the perfect donor match for this woman?
I don't think so, but we would never know anyway, because an angry person would never have gone to the clinic to get the blood work done to see if his kidney was the match for a total stranger. And an angry stranger at that!
Interesting question: did his loving attitude CREATE the match? Did his act of being loving and generous and compassionate and going against the grain of retaliating and "fighting fire with fire" actually foment a healthy breeding ground for miracles and create the synchronicty of the highest order -- love, healing, life? After all, love and love making actually unite people in creating babies -- LIFE!
Obviously he would not have been open-hearted enough to even offer his kidney — but let's take it a step further. If he were a miserly, hateful, angry person — would he have had the right chemistry, the correct DNA, or even have a healthy kidney to give her? Would he have been the perfect match if his nature had been reactive, volatile, resentful, negative, withholding, conservative (fear based) or "quick to anger?"
What do you think? Did the cab driver's generous, loving compassion — his peaceful, non-reactive attitude — actually CREATE the right match for her kidney? Or was it all predestined?
Quantum physics says that the observer affects the object (wave) making it collapse into a particle at a certain moment in time.
Quantum Physics says that everything exists in waves of infinite possibility, until we turn around and lock it in or "particularize" it with our "judgment, observation or opinion." (This is why it's important not to make negative assumptions about people or to judge them, for you get whatever you choose to see -- and you can therefore experience negative events that were never objectively there before you "locked them in" with your weighted observation or judgment.
I believe his open-hearted attitude toward the rude woman — and his gentle persistence in trying to understand her pain — was the compassion that created the donor match. Anyone can be loving to someone who is loving to them first, but when we are loving to those who hate us and persecute us, we disarm them. We conquer our enemies. (By the way, that is the mark of a true Christian; the one who turns the other cheek and loves his enemies and his neighbor as himself.
Love is creative. It creates life. The cab driver's loving compassion actually made his kidney the right donor match.
Love in the face of hatred is the law of attraction. Like attracts like; hence, the kidney match. I know this may sound difficult to wrap your mind around, but with an understanding of Quantum Physics, it is simple to understand.
If the cab driver had returned hate for hate -- if he had been her equal in jerkiness -- which is so easy and common, in fact most of us behave very badly on a daily basis with others. Most of us take the easy, lazy way out and we don't extend ourselves beyond our own nose -- we have no interest in experiencing life from another's point of view, especially a bitchy old woman. Maybe a sad person will elicit some sympathy but how often do we actually stop to consider WHY someone is so ornery or mean? Not very often, which makes me think this cabbie was a very special human being to be able to "turn the other cheek and quest for anwers inside this woman's crotchety old soul.
It's so ordinary and easy and common for us in everyday life to instantly react with hurt pride or to lash out when insulted or attacked. It seems to be the way of the world - tit for tat, you insult me, I insult you back. In our American TV shows and comedies we are so snarky and sarcastic and mean to each other. We get annoyed and resentful so easily.
But if this cab driver had been as much a jerk as his passenger was to him, there would not have been a healing. There would have been no story, no gift, no miracle.
There would have just been two hollow, hateful people passing like ships in the night. Maybe the cabbie would have had to learn his lesson in another way.
But two jerks usually cancel each other out. So it's our job, each of us, to go out into the world and do what we can to make someone happy. Here's how simple it is: Love creates life. When we express love, no matter how someone else is behaving, everyone involved in an argument is healed.
I don't mean to repeat myself but this is an important point, and a major discovery. Love heals. it is a creative force. Hate is a destructive force; it does not create life — it kills life. Just as darkness is the absence of light, and coldness is the absence of warmth, hatred is the absence of love. Hatred, darkness and cold have no power of their own. They are not self-starters.
This man took a bad situation and shined love on it. By his generosity, he enabled his kidney to be the right one as a donor match.
How is this possible?
In Quantum physics, scientists have proven that our loving attention to an object actually changes the object in the physical universe.
We have been conditioned to believe that the external world is more real than the internal world. Quantum Physics says just the opposite: what’s happening on the inside determines what’s happening on the outside. Our world is shaped by our thoughts. So your loving attention to something, literally alters the physical universe. This is scientific, but it is not easily understood.
Energy consists of sub-atomic particles that in turn make up atoms and finally matter. This energy exists as waves spread out over space and time. They have discovered that down to the tiniest atom, there is only empty space. There is no solid matter. Everything is energy. Everything exists in waves of infinite possibility. Only when we focus our attention on an object does that object become a particle. We "particularize" an object by our attention to it.
So thoughts really are things. And 85% of all disease is caused by stress -- which means worry, fear or misplaced thoughts that become ingrained habits of negativity. There is now scientific proof that loving thoughts actually create a thicker brain cortex. Monks who meditate on love regularly have no disease.
Dr. Christine Northrup says "Hope is a biochemical state in the body that promotes healing."
Laughter heals. And we know that love heals everything. Love is the actual definition of God. (If only the hateful Christian and Muslim fundamentalists knew that; they seem to omit Christ's teachings form their form of Christianity. Very bizarre.
Love is an interactive force. The Creator needs playmates to show off for. God needs our cooperation and belief in order to manifest miracles in our lives.
To experience magic, miracles and wonder, we need to adopt a childlike wonder at all the beauty around us. We need to appreciate it, so it can show off for us. We need to "act as if" we believe in a power greater than ourselves -- participate, conspire, and cooperate with the LOVE (which is God and Goodness (they all mean the same thing.)
By our loving, selfless action, we create harmony and goodwill. By being loving and giving, this man became the perfect match.
In this case, the Universe kept putting the cabbie and the woman together because the woman needed to be "driven" into submission by the cab driver's gentleness. This is the method used by the Great Peacemaker when he healed so-called "sinners." He leaned on Divine Love with revolutionary softness. Christ didn't condemn the adulterer or the thief; his unconditional love made them want to walk in the light, and transformed their hearts. Whether you believe the healing miracles or not, loving your enemies actually works. "A soft answer turns away wrath."
In any case, fate/the universe/God or whatever you call your higher power — kept putting the cab driver and the bitch together because they each had a missing piece that created the whole; the full circle.
It is wonderful the way love created a full circle of gifts. The one thing in the world the cab driver wanted, he received — as a result of his generosity. The antidote to poverty and depression is generosity. This cab driver acted exactly as the Great Peacemaker would; he gave freely without thought of self. And he received everything.
And what was the catalyst? Returning love for hate. The cab driver persisted in being loving to his enemy.
~ Love, Lydia
ok, those are pretty funny.
ReplyDelete"WHEN YOU ARE FRUSTRATED WITH LIFE, HERE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS" (read the new blog)
ReplyDeleteI just found this pic of the Soup Nazi too!
Luv xo
Lydia
To my admin: I know you mean well, but I may have to revoke your privileges.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm going to try the Hair Dryer one.
ReplyDeleteTexas hail and mud drifts ‘waist to shoulder’ high
ReplyDeleteBy Eric Pfeiffer | The Sideshow – 4 hrs ago
Maintenance crews in the Texas Panhandle are working to clear roads after several inches of hail fell Thursday night. In some areas, the hail mixed with heavy levels of dust to create muddy drifts that were waist- to shoulder-high, according to the Associated Press.
"It was crazy," National Weather Service Meteorologist Justyn Jackson said about the storm, which first hit Wednesday afternoon.
Potter County Sheriff Brian Thomas said that in rural areas, the hail mixed with rushing rainwater across dry land, which resulted in the mud and hail combination that accumulated to levels ranging from 2 to 4 feet in some areas.
"There were just piles of hail," said Maribel Martinez with the Amarillo/Potter/Randall Office of Emergency Management. "Some of the cars were just buried in hail and people were trapped in their cars."
Hunger in the United States
ReplyDeleteThree years after the onset of the financial and economic crisis, hunger remains high in the United States. The financial and economic crisis that erupted in 2008 (BUSH-PAULSON) caused a dramatic increase in hunger in the United States.
This high level of hunger continues in 2010, according to the latest government report (with the most recent statistics) released in September 2011 (Coleman-Jensen 2011).
In 2010, 17.2 million households, 14.5 percent of households (approximately one in seven), were food insecure, the highest number ever recorded in the United States 1 (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. v.)
In 2010, about one-third of food-insecure households (6.7 million households, or 5.4 percent of all U.S. households) had very low food security (compared with 4.7 million households (4.1 percent) in 2007. In households with very low food security, the food intake of some household members was reduced, and their normal eating patterns were disrupted because of the household’s food insecurity (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. v., Nord 2009, p. iii.) .
In 2010, children were food insecure at times during the year in 9.8 percent of households with children (3.9 million households.)
In one percent of households with children,one or more of the children experienced the most severe food-insecure condition measured by USDA, very low food security, in which meals were irregular and food intake was below levels considered adequate by caregivers (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. vi).
And when in doubt, get new clothes: shoes from Gucci, dress from Chanel, belt from borscht...
ReplyDeleteYes, funny post and nice pics.
ReplyDeleteImagine that though, one of the richest countries on the planet is going hungry?
Fear not.........the sight of famished Americans upsets Johnnymoomoo therefore you are all welcome to come to my house anytime,should you feel hunger pangs, for my world famous sirloin roast beef dinner cooked delicately in a slow cooker over eight hours……served with slightly chilled red wine!
Not for Worf though,he gets a pogo with mustard.....LOL!
Wheres Clippy been lately? Haven't heard from him in awhile?
ReplyDeleteMan,do my socks ever stink.....in a few hours they'll go crunch after they dry out.
ReplyDelete:|
Forecasters say Saturday storms 'life threatening'
ReplyDeleteBy SEAN MURPHY | Associated Press – 1 hr 33 mins ago
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — In an unusually early and strong warning, national weather forecasters cautioned Friday that conditions are ripe for violent tornadoes to rip through the nation from Texas to Minnesota this weekend.
As states across the middle of the country prepared for the worst, storms were already kicking off in Norman, Okla., where a twister whizzed by the nation's tornado forecasting headquarters but caused little damage.
It was only the second time in U.S. history that the Storm Prediction Center issued a high-risk warning more than 24 hours in advance, said Russ Schneider, director of the center, which is part of the National Weather Service. The first time was in April 2006, when nearly 100 tornadoes tore across the southeastern U.S., killing a dozen people and damaging more than 1,000 homes in Tennessee.
Hope they're wrong.
ReplyDeleteMidwest Tornadoes Rip Through Several States, Leave At Least 5 Dead
ReplyDeleteBy ROCHELLE HINES 04/15/12 05:00 AM ET
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Tornadoes reported across the Midwest and Plains on Saturday and early Sunday left five people dead in Oklahoma and damaged houses, a hospital, a jail, an Air Force base and other buildings around the region, officials said.
Well, maybe Voltron can come in and make things all better for them by telling them it was "just one tornado" and "wasn't severe".
ReplyDeleteOr maybe Big K could go down there and wave his Bachelors degree in Mechanical Engineering in their faces, then declare global warming isn't hurting them because HIS "calculations" say so.
ReplyDeleteProbably won't help much but it would give them something soft and squishy to pound on.
More storms possible Sunday in battered Midwest
ReplyDeleteBy ROXANNA HEGEMAN and SEAN MURPHY | Associated Press – 2 hrs 13 mins ago
WOODWARD, Okla. (AP) — Bleary-eyed residents were scouring through damaged homes across the Midwest on Sunday after a violent storm system unleashed dozens of overnight tornadoes, killing at least five people in Oklahoma, leveling homes in Iowa and Kansas, and cutting power to hundreds of thousands.
More than 100 tornadoes had been reported across the region by daybreak, according to the National Weather Service.
More than 100 tornadoes.
ReplyDeleteONE HUNDRED.
Or in Voltron's "Tea Bag Provided Talking Point Math"......"one".
Midwest storms: Severe weather, tornado warnings from Texas to Wisconsin
ReplyDeleteBy Dylan Stableford | The Lookout – 1 hr 26 mins ago
A day after tornadoes and strong storms walloped the Midwest, killing at least five people in Oklahoma and causing massive damage throughout the region, forecasters warn that more severe weather is on the way.
The National Weather Service is forecasting the development of tornadoes, large hail and damaging winds over parts of the upper Mississippi Valley this afternoon, with northeast Iowa, Southeast Minnesota and central and southwest Wisconsin areas most likely to be affected.
The National Weather Service received 122 reports of tornadoes in the Midwest on Saturday and early Sunday, but could not confirm exactly how many there were. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback told CNN on Sunday that 97 tornadoes touched down in his state.
..so how do clowns like Voltron, Big K and the rest of the right wing knuckleheads see the never ending fruition of predictions coming to pass yet continue selling the right wing anti-science, anti-global warming lies and phony talking points?
ReplyDeleteSimple.
ReplyDelete"remember..it isn't a lie,.. if you believe it."
- George Castanza
If it weren't for republican anti global warming politics, then we would have made significant advancements by now in the field of green and clean energy. Many European and Scandinavian countries and cities have already made great strides in that direction.
ReplyDeleteBeing who we are, we'd have made greater strides. We wouldn't settle for small little gutless cars with feminine sounding names like "Leaf".
We'd have Solar Powered Hummer's by now capable of climbing Widowmaker.
Because when we put our minds to a technical challenge we do it bigger and better than anyone. We walked on the moon and brought the world the computers we're typing on today.
So clean energy? No problem. Once it becomes a national priority.
We didn't walk on the moon until we all decided we should walk on the moon. Then we did it in ten years, and a lot of private enterprise driven by govt funding and initiative.
We can do this too. Same way. And then it ceases to be an issue.
Just think.
No more wars in the middle east over oil!
No more Americans dying here and abroad over our need to burn the black goo.
Just clean, renewable energy for all new cars and trucks and suddenly no more middle east, no more terrorism, no more smog, no more pollution, and no more arguing over global warming.
We'd just do it.
But instead we have to deal with republicans and their political objections to the science because Big Oil's convinced their political leaders to denounce it and of course that means republicans in general denounce it. Because they're told to. If republican leaders came out and said it was real, then they'd believe that too, and would be in here selling it because again, they were told to.
Republicans do what they're told, you gotta give em that.
Until we can figure out a way to get our republican brothers and sisters to get with the program, then we're going to stay stuck in neutral, coasting along.
ReplyDeleteWhat we need is the sort of national conviction we had after 911. Terrorist's killed just 3000 of us out of over 300 MILLION.
Global warming stands to kill a lot more of us, and do a lot more damage to resources and infrastructure.
Yet on this we're not united.
The republicans refuse to accept it. A political group refuses a matter of science, yet when cornered on that fact they claim its not political.
Yea.... only one political group is challenging it...but....its not political.
Until we can see a national effort like we saw with the moon race, where we bring in companies like Lockheed, Grumman, and others who bring in lots of people including mechanical engineers like Big K, who can work to design new and powerful yet cost effective clean energy vehicles, we'll always be stuck in neutral, coasting along.
ReplyDeleteAs long as guys like Big K who should be working to defeat global warming by designing powerful vehicles that run on clean energy, are instead out trying to convince others not to "believe in" global warming, then change is going to always be too little and too late.
"Inside the climate cabal
ReplyDeleteWhile our Government remains trapped in its green dreamworld, similar horror stories pile up on every side, from that UBS report on the astronomically costly fiasco of the EU’s carbon-trading scheme, to our own Government’s “carbon floor price”, in effect a tax on CO2 emissions rising yearly from 2013. This alone will eventually be enough to double the cost of our electricity, and drive a further swathe of what remains of UK industry abroad, because we are the only country in the world to have devised something so idiotic.
All this madness ultimately rests on a blind faith in the threat of man-made global warming, which no one has done more to promote than the scientists whose private emails were again last week leaked onto the internet.
It is still not generally appreciated that the significance of these Climategate emails is that their authors, such as Michael Mann, are no ordinary scientists: they are a little group of fanatical insiders who have, for years, done more than anyone else to drive the warming scare, through their influence at the heart of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And what is most striking about the picture that emerges from these emails is just how questionable the work of these men appears.
We see how they torture the evidence to support their theory – even to the point where some of them seem to lose faith in the story they are trying to tell. And we also see how rattled they were as soon as their work was challenged by expert outsiders such as Steve McIntyre, the mathematician who exposed the methods used to create Mann’s “hockey stick” temperature graph, which the IPCC had made Exhibit A for their theory.
Again and again we see them trying to defend the indefensible, giving vent to wild personal abuse of the enemies of what they call their “cause”, and stopping at nothing to keep their critics’ evidence out of IPCC reports and scientific journals, and prevent dissenting views from getting media atention.
This is no longer science worthy of the name. As I wrote when the first Climategate emails appeared in 2009, the global warming scare is far and away the greatest scientific scandal of our generation. When we then contemplate the insanity of the measures the politicians have imposed on us in consequence, we know we are looking at a collective flight from reality which has no precedent in the history of the world."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8917737/Is-the-global-warming-scare-the-greatest-delusion-in-history.html
Forget it Volt..........Worf has tunnel vision regarding global warming!
ReplyDeleteWhile I always try to keep things in perspective by examining both sides of the coin,Worf remains hopelessly narrow-minded.
Hes so obsessed with his theory that he almost believes its a sign from God signaling that the end is nigh......LOL!
...yea...imagine my actually taking the word of science....instead of your political leaders.
ReplyDeleteIt's all about the UN and it's "Agenda 21" Johnny.
ReplyDeleteOne world government. Intrusive control into and over everyone's personal life.
The new guise of communism...
And they fight for it. For their ego. Just to be "seen" as good people.
Hell of a price the rest of us have to pay, just so they can continue to think well of themselves.
Christopher John Penrice Booker (born 7 October 1937) is an English journalist and author.
ReplyDeleteIn 1961, he was one of the founders of the magazine Private Eye, and has contributed to it since then. He has been a columnist for The Sunday Telegraph since 1990.
He has taken a stance which runs counter to the scientific consensus on a number of issues, including global warming, the link between passive smoking and cancer, and the dangers posed by asbestos.
Heck of a unscientific reference ya got there volty, but then again that is part of the right wing shtick ain't it, denying science when it conflicts with your political propaganda talking points.
He not only disagrees with 97% of the actual scientists who actually study the earths climate, but he wants to deny smoking causes cancer and asbestos is dangerous.
Sorry but I tend to look for scientists not private eye fiction writers for scientific ideas.
Hes so obsessed with his theory
ReplyDeleteAnother fine example of right wing concern trolling at its finest.
Note Climate Change and Global Warming science is now suddenly MY theory.
See folks its not science....cuz its just MY theory.
Actually it's not even a theory.
ReplyDeleteIt's a doctrine to promote one world government and ultimate control over everyone everywhere.
Heck of a unscientific reference ya got there volty
ReplyDeleteThey get their science from their political leaders instead of scientists so they have to scour the internet to find unqualified tin foil hat theories to counter actual science.
I wonder if Volt believes him on the cigarettes not causing cancer thingy too?
ReplyDeleteIt's a doctrine to promote one world government and ultimate control over everyone everywhere.
ReplyDeletevolty you're either totally delusional or totally dishonest.
OR BOTH
Volt said
ReplyDelete"It's all about the UN and it's "Agenda 21" Johnny.
One world government. Intrusive control into and over everyone's personal life."
I have heard this before and for the life of me I cant remember where?
I didn't take the concept very seriously but I did find it curiously intriguing.
Typical;
ReplyDeleteVoltron get caught making incredibly ludicrous statements,
then mook mook comes in and plays concern troll behind him,
pretending voltron's statement isn't total lunacy.
Where is special K for the clean up????
...if any of you guys are interested, I'm selling Aluminum Foil for 10 cents a foot.
ReplyDelete...good stuff too.
ReplyDelete2 ply....Reynolds quality.
..great for making hats.
ReplyDeleteAs ice cap melts, militaries vie for Arctic edge
ReplyDeleteBy ERIC TALMADGE | Associated Press – 5 hrs ago
YOKOSUKA, Japan (AP) — To the world's military leaders, the debate over climate change is long over. They are preparing for a new kind of Cold War in the Arctic, anticipating that rising temperatures there will open up a treasure trove of resources, long-dreamed-of sea lanes and a slew of potential conflicts.
Wow look Johnny.
The Military's of the major superpowers have accepted "MY" theory.
To the world's military leaders, the debate over climate change is long over.
ReplyDeleteGee.. maybe Big K should go down to the Pentagon and wave his Bachelors degree in "mechanical engineering" in their faces and tell them they got it all wrong.
cuz...you know when you need to hear about the science of global warming, the FIRST place the Military should go is to some illiterate idiot on the internet with a bachelors degree in engineering, rather than to the scientists themselves.
Voltron can set them straight.
ReplyDeleteI mean, just because they're not only accepting global warming science, but ACTING on it....doesn't mean Voltron couldn't set them straight.
The problem is they're not wearing enough tin foil on their heads.
Concern Troll Johnny said...
ReplyDeleteHes so obsessed with his theory
See? Its not the science of global warming the major military's of the world are listening to.
Its "me".
Because as Johnny pointed out so clearly, its not a theory held by thousands of scientists and every major scientific body studying the issue on the planet, ...no sir..
It's just "my theory".
They're all apparently just listening to ME.
...lets just hope they don't catch Big K dumping thousands of bags of ice cubes on the polar Ice Caps this summer.
ReplyDeleteHe'll do anything to prove "his" theory.
Suddenly the trolls all gone. Hard to hang around when your arguments are so easily dismantled I guess.
ReplyDeleteFunny though.
Note how they all disappear together?
Which ironically is the same way they show up.
ReplyDeleteWorf, I think the trolls just came to the startling realisation that they have to defend THEN actually vote for Willard Mitt Romney.
ReplyDeleteLast time they had the Palin airhead to drool over when they were pretending McInsane was competent and qualified.
This time they aren't gonna be so lucky to have their libido overwhelm their confusion.
They are probably going through the 5 stages of grief and getting sh*t faced drunk for the next couple of weeks,
Go easy on them, it cannot be comfortable for them at this point after 8 years of defending the Bush debacle, trying to pretend willard ain't just more of the same uber rich republican incompetence, like Bush Jr was.
Yes. This must be a difficult time for them.
ReplyDeleteWhat Hansen et al got right decades ago.
ReplyDeleteWow, Dick Clark died at 82 today.
ReplyDeleteThere goes the end of an era.
Will miss him on New Years eve.
Yes, but just think where ever he ends up the party is getting started, no need to wait for New Years there.
ReplyDeleteno doubt.
ReplyDeleteHere, since the troll's spirits are failing them, I'll do a post on their behalf. Here's big k's next post.
ReplyDelete"Wow I just happened to "drop in" to see what you losers are doing and I see worfs still whining about global warming blah blah blah.....
I've got a masters degree and I can prove with my superior mathematical abilities that all the climate scientists in the world are wrong".....blah blah blah
"...of course, ...I can't actually show you any of this advanced genius of mine...all I can do is talk about it...and tell you about my bachelors degree, ...which I can't prove I have but you know I got it ...right?.....I mean I do....really...
ReplyDeletebig k
Just watched "Atlas Shrugged" on pay per view.
ReplyDeleteWOW, why did I wait so long. Great, Great movie. Ranks right up there with "Lilo & Stitch"...
Taylor Schilling was brilliant. It also has Bob Beckel's smarter brother in it too.
I highly recommend it to everyone.
Yes, its always impressive to see the extreme contortions of logic and reason a person will go to in order to justify their apathy towards their fellow man.
ReplyDeleteGood stuff to be sure.
Ayn Rand and Christianity.
ReplyDeleteWho says you can't mix oil and water?
Just watched "Atlas Shrugged" on pay per view.
ReplyDeleteWOW, why did I wait so long. Great, Great movie. Ranks right up there with "Lilo & Stitch"...
Yes both are works of total fiction using cartoon characters that have no connection to reality.
Glad we agree on this one volty.
Well, you guys should really like it then.
ReplyDeleteSince you're both "cartoon characters that have no connection to reality".
wow...it took you all night to come up with that dud, or did you have help?
ReplyDeleteI just got through watching Deliverance.
ReplyDeleteYou and Big K should like that, since you're both a couple of inbred, closeted homosexual, trailer trash rubes.
..you'll even get to see Ned Beatty in his underwear.
ReplyDelete...and we know you like you some of dat...
ReplyDeleteSince you're both "cartoon characters that have no connection to reality".
ReplyDeletesays the guy raving about a work of fiction written by an acknowledged meth head,
who preached one thing and lived a different life in reality.
sorta like most of the right wing does.
Think about it Clif.
ReplyDeleteLike most normal people we learn from science about the environment in which we live.
However in the dark ages, religious and political leaders worked to convince the population to disbelieve in science.
And today, these guys like Voltron and Big K,... spend their time trying to convince people to disbelieve science.
Because their religious and political leaders have convinced them to disbelieve in it.
I wonder if they ever actually stop and consider that disturbing fact?
I mean cut it how you want it, but you can't escape the simple fact that MOST NORMAL PEOPLE get their science information from science.
ReplyDeleteBut Conservatives get their science from their religious and political leaders.
Which is how it was done in the Dark Ages.
So I don't get it.
How can a reasonably intelligent person, which all jokes aside Volt and Big K obviously are, ...so how can a reasonably intelligent person ignore this blatant reality?
Personally I think its because that's what they want to do, not what they actually think. That they might not even actually buy into the crap they sell in here.
Part of me wonders if the only reason they sell the crap they sell on the internet is simply because they have nothing else to sell.
"Each one of us here today will at one time in our lives look upon a loved one who is in need and ask the same question: We are willing to help, Lord, but what, if anything, is needed?
ReplyDeleteFor it is true we can seldom help those closest to us. Either we don't know what part of ourselves to give or, more often than not, the part we have to give is not wanted.
And so it is those we live with and should know who elude us.
But we can still love them - we can love completely without complete understanding."
Somewhere, at sometime, perhaps long ago,.. we were better than this.
ReplyDeletethe cowardly lion said
ReplyDelete"Or maybe Big K could go down there and wave his Bachelors degree in Mechanical Engineering in their faces, then declare global warming isn't hurting them because HIS "calculations" say so."
i had a feeling you would still be talking about me.
because you do not care, of course.
big k
johnny,
ReplyDeletei would love to try this roast of yours.
and i bought a really nice smoker last year and have been using it almost every weekend, and holiday. my smoked pork shoulder, brisket, and turkeys are the stuff of legend around my neighborhood.
i would be willing to be even worf would agree if he were to try some. assuming he eats meat, that is.
there are not many vegetable dishes suitable for smoking, but there are some. not quite my forte though.
big k
the cowardly lion also said,
ReplyDelete"I mean cut it how you want it, but you can't escape the simple fact that MOST NORMAL PEOPLE get their science information from science.
But Conservatives get their science from their religious and political leaders."
i distinctly remember asking for a scientific paper with data and assumptions and stuff. were was that again?
i never cited a religious or political leader. as far as i know, no one else here has either. where does worf get this stuff except from his own warped, little, uneducated, uninformed, ignorant mind?
big k
Why would you ask Clif for a scientific paper on climate science?
ReplyDeleteIs Clif a climate scientist?
Are you?
ReplyDelete"i never cited a religious or political leader"
ReplyDeleteNo one said you did.
I said that's where you get your science, and it is.
lastly,
ReplyDeletei am not ignoring anything. i am skeptical. i can be skeptical. everything i have seen is like the stupid article you offered a few weeks ago. some data "suggests" something. no data is offered, of course. some data somewhere just suggests it. when challenged for this data, none ever shows up. people like you only throw out insults, no math, no data, no assumptions. nothing.
and then claim i am the one denying stuff on religious reasons.
you have a theory. i ask for proof. you offer none. the burden of proof is yours, i do not have to prove something does not exist. if it is so obvious you should be able to offer such proof. it should be easily.
but the problem always changes. it is like someone is trying to take anything they have and fit it into a box. the website you offered said that climate change will be rapid, happening in a short period (i think 10 years) of time instead of over many years (like 100). they make this point because it was believed before it would be a gradual process.
either way we are all still waiting for it.
and before worf throws out some local news, it is called global warming. regional weather patterns prove nothing, even the local highs. it always cracks me up when people in phoenix claim global warming when it is 115 outside. never mind that the highest the temp ever got on record was about 20 years ago (122 in 1990). that same time it was 132 in lake havasu city. but even i do not point to that is proof there is no global warming, it was just an incredibly hot day. not that i minded, i was swimming at a friends house the whole time.
so, worf. i will read your "proof" if you are ever actually able to provide it. i can read a scientific document. i can follow the math. go ahead and lay it on me. until then, i will continue to be a skeptic. and it has nothing to do with anyone else, political, religious, or otherwise. if anything, it has more to do with the ignorant people like yourself trying to foist this theory on the rest of us with no actual proof.
big k
Disbelief in the science of global warming is a purely conservative phenomenon.
ReplyDeleteAnd when you get your degree in a science related to the study of global warming, and spend 5 or 10 years in the field researching it and writing published papers on it, ....you let us know.
Until then, you're just a big mouth on the internet talking tough (when we know you're a coward, that's why you call others one) and running your big, fat mouth about a college degree that you likely don't even have.
" Why would you ask Clif for a scientific paper on climate science?
ReplyDeleteIs Clif a climate scientist?"
you do not have to be a climate scientist to find such a paper. you can google them.
obviously you and clif would not be able to write such a paper, and i never asked you to provide something written by either of you.
otherwise you would actually be able to debate me on the approach to the math i suggested. you cannot. so i would like to read something written by a scientist that has such math.
should be a simple task. it is so obvious and all.
big k
ReplyDeletei am not ignoring anything. i am skeptical. i can be skeptical. everything i have seen is like the stupid article you offered a few weeks ago.
Sure you are. Either that or you're just a big fat liar.
Because I didn't "offer an article".
I've posted HUNDREDS of articles over the years in here on the science of global warming.
I've posted several since then.
So either you're lying, or you're ignoring all the data we've posted over the past 6 years, (which all is readily available online).
Probably both.
you do not have to be a climate scientist to find such a paper. you can google them
ReplyDeleteSo google one asshole.
What your arm is broken?
"And when you get your degree in a science related to the study of global warming, and spend 5 or 10 years in the field researching it and writing published papers on it, ....you let us know."
ReplyDeletehere is a question for you.
what degree would you suggest? i have never seen a program directly for climatology. often, the people who study this have degrees in various fields, including mechanical engineering, as i proved before.
but no major universities offer this that i am aware of.
feel free to prove me wrong.
big k
otherwise you would actually be able to debate me on the approach to the math i suggested.
ReplyDeleteYou're too stupid thick to get it even though its been drilled into your dense skull now about 100 times.
I don't have to debate you on global warming. No one does.
Because YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DEBATE THE SUBJECT.
You're just another loud mouthed right wing idiot on the internet who is out selling the right wing anti science anti green doctrines, because the oil companies told you too.
Via your political and religious leaders.
i can google them, sure.
ReplyDeletethe bigger point i was making is you have never seen such an article, and could not find one with the whole power of the internet at your fingertips. you have no clue what you are talking about, no clue what the science is behind this stuff, and would not recognize it if it bit you in the ass.
and you proved that quite well.
big k
When you get your degree in a climate related field, and have spent a decade or so researching and writing on the subject, then you can run your mouth.
ReplyDeleteUntil then, no one cares what you've got say, but also no ones stopping you from saying it either.
Got an argument.
Make it.
We can all use a good laugh.
ReplyDelete"you have no clue what you are talking about, no clue what the science is behind this stuff"
ReplyDeleteWe know as much about it as you do, and as anyone not studying the field.
We learned about it in the 1960's in grade school, when you were still a 20 dollar trick away from being born.
You're no scientist, and I'm sure the only college you graduated from was Clown College or Falwell U.
ReplyDeletei am quite qualified to debate the math of the subject, and if i am not you have even less to go on.
ReplyDeleteso why would anyone listen to anything someone who never finished school had to say about it if you would not listen to an engineer?
oddly, when i was looking up climatologists when i made my post about major universities offering such programs, what i did find were a lot of people with statistical backgrounds. you know, the stuff i said would have to be used to analyze any data set that you said you could not use.
that is because you know more than i do. just because you said you do, i guess.
big k
And if you didn't graduate from Clown College, then they should send you an honorary degree.
ReplyDeleteBecause you've got that science down pat.
ReplyDeletei am quite qualified to debate the math of the subject
No you're not.
Because you're not qualified to understand the numbers and their relation to the topic.
ReplyDeleteI took statistics too.
Doesn't mean I can go debunk NASA.
"When you get your degree in a climate related field, and have spent a decade or so researching and writing on the subject, then you can run your mouth."
ReplyDeleteso why are you running yours then?
by your own admission you have no qualifications at all.
if we are going to discuss the personal merits of the people in this then you have admittedly less than i do.
big k
oh!!
ReplyDeletenow you took statistics!!
we get a tantilizing new clue.
big k
The irony here is you actually think they don't have people that can count too.
ReplyDeleteNumbers by themselves, without understanding the underlying data, mean nothing.
no you did not take statistics, at least not the classes i did (500 level courses in scientific and engineering statistics).
ReplyDeleteotherwise you would be able to tell me why you think i am wrong in my approach, other than i just am somehow.
i would be more than happy to read what you have to say on that subject. i predict only insults and no real analysis will ensue with your new found knowledge of statistics though.
big k
ReplyDeletenow you took statistics!!
we get a tantilizing new clue
No THEN I took statistics.
As did anyone majoring in computer science back then. We also took algorithms, assembly language, and C.
Most of which I forgot about 2 weeks into the field because we don't actually use it in the field.
Hey special K;
ReplyDeleteM.A. in Climate and Society
Do you consider Columbia University a "major university"?????
or maybe;
M.S. in Climate Science and Policy
or the unknowing one how about University from Arizona;
Master’s of Science in
Climate Science and Solutions
The list is much longer then this but you might be able to comprehend my point,
which is:
The only thing you know LESS about then the scientific study of climate science, is where people go to study the scientific study of climate science.
QED
"Numbers by themselves, without understanding the underlying data, mean nothing."
ReplyDeletewhich is why i kept talking about assumptions, data acquisition, and so on.
of course, you were not able to comprehend what you were reading to get that.
try again.
big k
ReplyDeleteno you did not take statistics
yes, ...I did.
And for the 10 thousandth time, there is nothing to debate you on and I won't even give your nonsense credence by pretending to honor it with debate, when there's nothing to debate.
ReplyDeleteBecause numbers and statistics without an understanding of the subject matter, means nothing.
Any idiot knows that.
All you're trying to do is make yourself feel better about being made a fool of, time and time again.
ReplyDeleteWe know it. You know it.
You get your ignorant ass kicked in here over and over, then come back looking for more.
a masters of ARTS in climate and society?
ReplyDeletei think that speaks for itself.
gimme a minute on the rest of these.
that was funny though.
and you were saying we pay too much attention to politicians.
that is a course of study in training future politicians.
good one....
big k
So now you want to pretend that numbers by themselves are somehow magically able to dismiss global warming science, which they can't.
ReplyDeleteSo you can cry all you want.
You can stomp your feet, all you want.
But I don't dance to your tune asshole.
I don't jump when you say go.
I don't google when you demand it.
And I don't debate unqualified internet idiots who's very premise of the debate is already flawed .
You got something to say big mouth?
Then say it.
No ones stopping you.
any idiot knows that
ReplyDeleteWorf, special K isn't just any idiot, he is much bigger then that.
He tries and succeeds in being a very big idiot here. Especially in his circular closed argument that his knowledge in math is better then the people who study climate science .... cause he has an engineering degree although he doesn't come close to Micheal Mann's knowledge.
to wit;
A.B. applied mathematics and physics (1989), MS physics (1991), MPhil physics (1991), MPhil geology (1993), PhD geology & geophysics (1998)
but he wants to debate his special math knowledge
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletea masters of ARTS in climate and society?
i think that speaks for itself.
uhhh, yea, you're right. It does.
And what it says, is you are a liar.
Scroll up and find the comment where I said ANYTHING about a "MASTER OF ARTS".
a masters of ARTS in climate and society?
ReplyDeletei think that speaks for itself.
Only to somebody who ideology trumps real science special K.
Like YOURS does.
Another lying right wing troll said...
ReplyDeletegimme a minute on the rest of these.
uhhh no....don't think I can until you go back and address your LIE.
I never said ANYTHING about a "MASTER OF ARTS".
So until you address that LIE of yours, you've got nothing to say.
and bard cep?
ReplyDeleteagain. not a major university. just like i said.
please. make this a little harder for me.
science and POLICY.
come on.
big k
Cause the list of schools offering degrees in climate science is MUCH longer, nice try at deflecting your ignorance with a politically based ideological attack instead of the fact schools offer what you falsely claimed they didn't.
ReplyDeleteBecause your credibility (as if you ever had any), is now null and void by that blatant lie.
ReplyDeleteLets see you do NOT look at what they teach ONLY at ways of dismissing them because YOU cannot debate the truth.
ReplyDelete"Scroll up and find the comment where I said ANYTHING about a "MASTER OF ARTS""
ReplyDeletei can scroll up just fine.
why not read the very first link you posted there big guy. it was a MA program. that means master of arts. you would know that if you went to school and stuff.
big k
Oh I see, Clif said it and you were attributing it to me.
ReplyDeleteYou do that a lot.
Guess when you're "slow" you have a hard time keeping up, huh?
Guess Arizona State didn't have much of an English program.
ReplyDeleteYo special K ... worf didn't post the links
ReplyDeleteI did, still cannot debate the truth can YOU, just ideologically driven talking points like you have here when caught in a false statement.
And see, there is one. Clif even gave you a link dummy.
ReplyDeleteIf you did attend college, then you must have graduated summa cum clown.
ReplyDelete:D
Or something like that.
you know nothing of statistics worf.
ReplyDeleteotherwise you would know i am right on that one. otherwise a statistician would have no job. they know nothing other than the math. your argument means they can do nothing because they only have the math and no underlying understanding of anything. that makes no sense, in that they are quite employable.
big k
U.S. Experiences Hottest March; 15,000+ Temperature Records Broken
ReplyDeleteASHEVILLE, North Carolina, April 10, 2012 (ENS) - Record-high temperatures prevailed across the eastern two-thirds of the nation in March, adding up to the warmest March for the lower 48 states since recordkeeping began in 1895, the National Climatic Data Center reports.
The first quarter of 2012 was also the warmest on record; and the early March tornado outbreak across the Ohio Valley and Southeast, which caused 40 fatalities, is year's first "billion dollar disaster," the center said.
Every state in the nation experienced at least one record warm daily temperature during March, and more than 15,200 warm temperature records were broken during the month, says the Asheville-based center, which is a part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA.
oops,
ReplyDeleteit was cliff.
fine, clif's post was crap.
feel better you two?
big k
Hell special K the swiss have one also;
ReplyDeleteMaster of Science in Climate Sciences
Feel free top admit your statement was WRONG at any time there skippy
you know nothing of statistics worf.
ReplyDeleteSure I do.
For example, I know there's a 10 to 1 change that your biological parents were also your aunt and uncle.
On the same side.
...and I know theres a 100 to one chance that the only school you ever graduated from, was Falwell University.
ReplyDelete....where you majored in being a minor.
ReplyDeleteThe University of Leeds in England also has one;
ReplyDeleteMeteorology and Climate Science
Quick think of a way to discredit the Swiss and British before you have to admit you were WRONG AGAIN.
big klod said...
ReplyDeleteoops,
That about says it all.
feel better you two?
ReplyDeleteI don't know, ...are you still here?
one hot month. one hot year.
ReplyDeletewhatever. means nothing.
and again, you would know that if you knew statistics. a statistical approach is appropriate because it allows for variation, but mathematically determines a shift in a mean. one data point, or one years worth of data points does not constitute this.
big k
special K ....
ReplyDelete.... trashing Masters Degree programs like he does science, with NO facts to back him up just his keyboard pronouncements.
Like most of the right wing troll brigade does, when faced with irrefutable facts.
They make a blanket statement that doesn't address the facts and move on like they actually said something of substance.
So we got this guy see...this guy on the interwebs...calling himself "big k"....(cuz he wants us all to know he's a "big man")...who declares a bachelors of science in mechanical engineering makes him an expert on global warming....and we should just ignore the entire scientific community including our own NASA....and listen to him.
ReplyDeleteCuz his bachelors degree makes him more qualified, than any of them.
:|
Do the math on that....
i do not know anything about schools in europe. i imagine you know less.
ReplyDeletebut a master of arts program was pretty stupid to put up there cliff.
big k
Hey worf this GIF is a perfect illustration of what special K is trying BUT failing top do,
ReplyDeletetemps rising over the decades and how the right wing views it
but a master of arts program was pretty stupid to put up there cliff.
ReplyDeleteOnly to a clown on the internet
who doesn't want to admit
HE IS WRONG AGAIN;
as usual.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteone hot month. one hot year.
whatever. means nothing.
See? Like voltron, all you have are repetitive lies.
Its not "one hot month" and its not "one hot year".
Its volumes of evidence being posted every week in here, and all over the internet, about the rising sea temperatures, melting ice caps, melting glaciers, Greenland and other countries losing their coastal lines, ...and on and on and on. That's just the "tip of the iceberg".
And I just did a whole 3 day thing with Voltron on the mass tornado storms.
And just like the liar that is big k, Voltron lied and tried to paint it as "ONE TORNADO".
When he was blown out of the water on that because everyone's been following the MASS TORNADO storms we've been having, he ran away with his tail between his legs.
Because he got caught lying, just like you.
i imagine you know less.
ReplyDeleteYou imagine a hell of a lot, but KNOW very little as you have aptly demonstrated.
"They make a blanket statement that doesn't address the facts and move on like they actually said something of substance."
ReplyDeletereally clif?
worf does exactly that all the time. the name calling, now blathering on about my parents being related.
you are hitting worf with some friendly fire there.
big k
You ignore every piece of evidence out there.
ReplyDeleteI and Clif, have to keep rewriting the same facts, over and over.
And the next week you come in and start from scratch, pretending that any information provided is just "ONE THING".
Because that's the only way you people can continue to lie to everyone including yourselves.
You have to lie.
You have to ignore the evidence.
Because to confront it, is to confront the ignorance you try to sell as science.
Hell, I bet special K cannot state where the vast majority of the heat involved with global warming has gone.
ReplyDeleteHint it ain't the hot air the right wingers like him waste hyperventilating in their denial.
worf does exactly that all the time. the name calling, now blathering on about my parents being related.
ReplyDeleteMore lies.
The TRUTH?
1. I was posting quiet, benign comments.
2. YOU came in and started calling ME names.
Now special K is trying BUT FAILING to deflect his problem defending his position onto worf,
ReplyDeletebecause he cannot use actual FACTS to defend his position.
Otherwise he would list some like I have WITH Actual links.
Big Pussy said...
ReplyDeletethe cowardly lion said
reading is fundamental worf. again.
ReplyDeleteone years worth of weather. one years worth of a lot of tornadoes. it proves what you want it to prove, but this is not hard science.
and i find it odd that you are saying people have to be experts in this subject to be able to talk about it. if it is so easy for all of us to understand, we do not need a degree to talk about it.
unless you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
big k
Come on special K where has the majority of the heat trapped by CO2 gone??????
ReplyDelete"I and Clif,"
ReplyDeletenice english skills there.
thought i would point that out. just for fun.
big k
ReplyDeleteOtherwise he would list some like I have WITH Actual links.
Amen.
That's all he does.
He never actually argues his point.
All he ever does, is argue about arguing his point.
Why has the trend for the last two decades for atmospheric temperatures gone upwards?????
ReplyDeleteWhy has the ratio of new high temperatures compared to new low temperatures gone so far from the norm??????
ReplyDeleteHe never actually debates anything.
ReplyDeleteHe just debates about debating things, and then tries to launch personal attacks and pretend that its others attacking him.
In case you do not know the ratio statistically SHOULD be 1 to 1 but isn't
ReplyDeleteHe's just a big pussy.
ReplyDelete"..so how do clowns like Voltron, Big K"
ReplyDeletethat was from before i came in here.
who started off calling people names? who is lying about it?
big k
It was 2 to 1 in 2000
ReplyDeleteand last year was 3 new highs for every new low temp.
why?????
ReplyDelete.so how do clowns like Voltron, Big K"
ReplyDeletethat was from before i came in here.
who started off calling people names? who is lying about it?
You.
Because that post is from last week.
"Why has the trend for the last two decades for atmospheric temperatures gone upwards?????"
ReplyDeletewhat trend? what data suggests this? where is it posted?
speaking of repeating yourself. i have asked for this before, i think.
data. actual numbers. not some graph with pretty colors.
big k
22 to 1 first two months of 2012
ReplyDelete35 to 1 March 2012
see a trend yet special K
an over decade long trend.
Big Pussies problem is, he got his ass handed to him by me 6 years ago, and never got over it.
ReplyDeleteSo he crawls in from time to time to try to make himself feel better by getting a "zinger" in on me.
oh, so last week it doesnt count.
ReplyDeleteriiiiight.
big k
...here Big P....try this one.
ReplyDelete"...yea....well the Jerk Store called, and they're all outta you."
i have asked for this before, i think.
ReplyDeletedata. actual numbers.
why cannot you see the numbers ON the graph,
which is they way scientists look at trends.
You just LOOK FOR WAYS not to discuss the facts don't you?
"Big Pussies problem is, he got his ass handed to him by me 6 years ago, and never got over it."
ReplyDeleteyou were an idiot then as now worf. and you never handed me my ass.
and i get over these discussions just fine, which is why i go away for a while. i get tired of you and i find something else to do. all the while paying no attention to you.
however, i take off for a few weeks and find i am still a topic of discussion here.
because you dont care. of course.
big k
Well "come on" Big K, Clif's giving you what you asked for.
ReplyDeleteLet's see that "mathematical genius" of yours dismiss it.
I guess special K CANNOT answer any actual scientific questions since he seems to strenuously avoid even TRYING.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
ReplyDeleteand i get over these discussions just fine, which is why i go away for a while.
Yea but were you committed or was it a voluntary admission?
Worf, he isn't going to touch that graph, because it destroys his whole unscientific argument in ONE simple little graph.
ReplyDeleteIt shows the multi decade increase in the earth's atmospheric temps and how the right wing attempts to dismiss it.
"why cannot you see the numbers ON the graph,"
ReplyDeletethe numbers on the graph. thats a good one. did they stick a thermometer in the planets ass to come up with those numbers? are they an average of temperatures the world over? how was this collected? did they take the data in the same locations ever year? did they build a strip mall where they were collecting data in a forest before? these are important questions. and these are the questions that never get answers.
big k
I guess special K CANNOT answer any actual scientific questions since he seems to strenuously avoid even TRYING.
ReplyDeleteOf course not.
All he wants is to get a "zinger" in on me, to make up for that can of whoopass I opened on him back in 05.
Which is also why he stopped talking about science and is trying to divert the discussion one other things ANY other thing except the scientific graph he really wants to ignore.
ReplyDeleteand of course the simple questions I asked.
ReplyDeleteBig P said..
ReplyDeletethe numbers on the graph. thats a good one. did they stick a thermometer in the planets ass to come up with those numbers?
See?
No "mathematical arguments".
Just "nuh uh....they're wrong".
He cannot start actually discussing the science because he cannot;
ReplyDeleteOtherwise he would discuss science and stop his diversions.
it really is that simple.
that graph is laughable. i honestly thought it was a joke, which is why i did not discuss it.
ReplyDeletebig k
He isn't trained in the science, so the numbers don't mean anything to him.
ReplyDeleteHe just says "nuh uh, they're all wrong" and thinks THAT makes an "argument".
lol
He does NOT know where the vast majority of the heat content from CO2 trapping has gone, which is why he refuses to discuss that FACT and cries for numbers NOT facts.
ReplyDeletethat graph is laughable. i honestly thought it was a joke, which is why i did not discuss it.
ReplyDeletelol, sure chief, ...sure.
better grab some popcorn Clif...cuz we're gonna see some real fine tap dancing now.
ReplyDeletethat graph is laughable.
ReplyDeleteactually special K, the graph itself is 100% accurate for the numerical figures it shows,
you do not like what it shows about your untenable position scientifically which is why you are flailing about trying to laugh it off, instead of discussing the facts it presents.
Where is all the heat special K, come on that has to be an easy one for you given how much you have boasted about yourself here.
ReplyDelete"He does NOT know where the vast majority of the heat content from CO2 trapping has gone, which is why he refuses to discuss that FACT and cries for numbers NOT facts."
ReplyDeletei do not know where you think the heat has gone. nor do i much care, quite frankly. i am looking at the end result. what are global temps, are they moving, how much, and so on. that has not been proven by you guys, no matter how many times you repeat yourselves.
there has been no mathematics given here by you guys for me to discuss. i have been waiting for it.
big k
Or can't you actually do it.
ReplyDeleteactual science that is.
I see you don't know.
ReplyDelete"actually special K, the graph itself is 100% accurate for the numerical figures it shows,"
ReplyDeleteactually, how would anyone know that by looking at this joke? who prepared it? how? and so on.
throw a stupid gif up here and that is your proof? even i thought you had more sense in your head than that.
big k
i do not know where you think the heat has gone. nor do i much care, quite frankly
ReplyDelete...tappity tap tap....
i do not know where you think the heat has gone.<
ReplyDeleteUmmm special K it isn't where "i think" it has gone.
It is where actual climatologists have MEASURED it.
What "i think" or "you think" doesn't affect the actual measurements scientists make one bit.
But nice way to try BUT fail to hide your ignorance on the subject.
The graph is scientifically accurate special K even if you do NOT like the trends it shows.
ReplyDeleteKeep dodging the facts
throw a stupid gif up here and that is your proof?
ReplyDeletetapitty tap tapitty tap tap tappy tap....
i am not hiding my ignorance of that subject. i do not know, and i do not care.
ReplyDeletetemp data. real stuff. not some crap from an online joke.
honestly, i saw that and thought it was a joke. i had no idea you were putting that up as some kind of proof of your point. i am genuinely floored. that was the dumbest thing you have done all night, and i thought that master of arts thing was bad.
really, i am going to give you guys a few more posts. if you have some real data, actually collected by a scientist i will take a look at it. you said that graph is a real one, go ahead and show me what it is from.
otherwise i will leave you to play with yourselves. you two are quite good at that.
big k
....gonna start calling you Gregory Hines.
ReplyDeleteBig Nothing said...
ReplyDeletei do not know, and i do not care.
Behold.
The summation of his "argument" on global warming.
tapity tap tap all you want.
ReplyDeletei would not embarrass myself by putting a gif down as proof of anything.
i leave that to liberals.
big k
Big k said...
ReplyDeletei am not hiding my ignorance of that subject.
You can say that again.
Ok special K;
ReplyDeleteHere is the graph(that agrees scientificall with the previous one I posted;
Increqasing temp trend
And here is the numbers it is based on;
raw data
enjoy.
i would not embarrass myself by putting a gif down as proof of anything.
ReplyDeleteuhhh, the web format doesn't change the data there Einstein.
Well well well;
ReplyDeletekeep asking special K to actually discuss science,
first he refuses all attempts to get him to discuss science ,
then admits he doesn't care,
then runs away.
I guess he really cannot discuss the actual science, all he really can do is just look at the pretty numbers.
ReplyDeleteI gave him LOTS of pretty numbers in the second link, hope he enjoys them.
ReplyDeleteWell I think he deserves a standing ovation tonight.
ReplyDeleteI mean, ...he actually tried to shuffle off the idea that the FILE EXTENSION had some impact on the data you gave him.
It was like watching Dancing with the Stars.
Who can I write about nominating him for a Tony?
ReplyDeleteWonder if Lydia would know?
Big K on the science of global warming.
ReplyDelete"i do not know, and i do not care."
"then runs away"
ReplyDeletei thought as much. i am reading, idiot. if i were to have something to say about it this quickly you would have a point because i would obviously not be paying attention to it.
not that you made that easy. i had to scour the raw data to find where it came from. so i am now trying to read how they got it.
that is what i have been asking for this whole time.
and cowardly liar, the problem with the gif is the same as the problem with your nasa website. no background means it could have been put together by a child, or by you, same difference. some dots on a page mean nothing without the other information i have been asking for all this time. you would know that if you ever had any scientific training at all. even (and especially) with an engineering background.
big k
"then runs away"
ReplyDeletei thought as much. i am reading, idiot. if i were to have something to say about it this quickly you would have a point because i would obviously not be paying attention to it.
not that you made that easy. i had to scour the raw data to find where it came from. so i am now trying to read how they got it.
that is what i have been asking for this whole time.
and cowardly liar, the problem with the gif is the same as the problem with your nasa website. no background means it could have been put together by a child, or by you, same difference. some dots on a page mean nothing without the other information i have been asking for all this time. you would know that if you ever had any scientific training at all. even (and especially) with an engineering background.
big k
Actually worf I liked the way he tried to IGNORE the fact he was proven wrong when he falsely stated,
ReplyDeletei have never seen a program directly for climatology. often, the people who study this have degrees in various fields, including mechanical engineering, as i proved before.
he just couldn't bring his little mind to accept the FACT he was wrong again.
No matter how may universities I showed him that actually did offer degree programs in the field of climate science.
he refused to admit he was wrong.